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Post by oneday on Tue 23 Jun 2015, 6:39 pm

last trip I noticed that after ground balancing the & in the usual manner I thought I would see what would happen if I ground balanced in the missionary position and I found it was noisy so I reground balanced the machine and repeated the process and it went quiet.

Has anyone else came across this dilemma and found a cure or is it just me.

the auto smoothing was OFF--- high yield and difficult--once I noise cancel I usually switch it to Manual.

just putting it out there.

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Post by Wedgetail on Tue 23 Jun 2015, 7:08 pm

Define, "the missionary position"???
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Post by goldnomad on Wed 24 Jun 2015, 5:14 am

Wedgetail wrote:Define, "the missionary position"???

Ahhh...that's with Ray on top of his 7000 as distinct from the "Doggy" method Razz Razz Razz

I just couldn't resist Razz Razz Razz

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Post by oneday on Wed 24 Jun 2015, 6:59 am

the pumping method..

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Post by oneday on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 6:36 am

I used the ferrite on the weekend and yes it does make a difference.

U can hear the detector becoming quieter, geez this isn't hard to absorb, the ferrite does work and don't be scared of using it.

Keep swinging over the ferrite until u hear the machine getting quiet.

If u have a problem let us know.

It has been reported that minelab r coming up with an upgrade for the ground balance for the 7k,reported on the knitting club,

The issue I have is that when someone tells someone confidential info--then don't be a lowlife asswipe and sprout yah guts on a forum coz u can--respect the person that told u something as private and confidential, that is how u should respect yah mate. With a mate like "PAUL" u wont give him used ass paper, go use a sheet of plastic. With individuals like him, u wouldn't tell anyone were u r finding gold coz of the want to bignote oneself.

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Post by davsgold on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 7:10 am

oneday wrote:I used the ferrite on the weekend and yes it does make a difference.

U can hear the detector becoming quieter, geez this isn't hard to absorb, the ferrite does work and don't be scared of using it.

Keep swinging over the ferrite until u hear the machine getting quiet.

If u have a problem let us know.

It has been reported that minelab r coming up with an upgrade for the ground balance for the 7k,reported on the knitting club,

The issue I have is that when someone tells someone confidential info--then don't be a lowlife asswipe and sprout yah guts on a forum coz u can--respect the person that told u something as private and confidential, that is how u should respect yah mate. With a mate like "PAUL" u wont give him used ass paper, go use a sheet of plastic. With individuals like him, u wouldn't tell anyone were u r finding gold coz of the want to bignote oneself.



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No different to when the Ferrite was about to be released, someone jumped the gun and posted info and pics.

And that never came from the "Knitting Club"

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Post by oneday on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 8:37 am

that's the point Dave--keep yah mouth shut about yah patches otherwise the whole world will be there..

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Post by Warbos on Sun 18 Oct 2015, 11:51 am

Hi, new to this forum but thought I would advise I have updated he 7000 with the new firmware and as I am going bush for 5 days to test it out. Can anybody advise if they use setting on 7000 with Sensitivity 20, Threshold 1. If so, what results have you found with this.

I have corresponded with Jonathan Porter as to what advice he can give for 7000 now it is upgraded and its use in WA. Here is his advice.

"The main advice is to always use the Ferrite to achieve a good ground balance. Try not to perform the Ferrite balance in extremely salty ground instead balance in quieter ground initially then move into the noisier soils allowing the Auto Tracker to do it's job. Once the main balance is done keep off the Quick-Track button and just pump the coil up and down to keep the G track correct the Ferrite part of the balance will hold true for the whole session so long as you don't trigger Quick-Trak."

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Post by oneday on Sun 18 Oct 2015, 3:39 pm

Hi Warbo.
just got back from a night at the Batchelor Pad. No women with us.

had the 7 upgraded and ferrite balanced.

was running the Threshold down real low
Sensitivity on 19.
Auto Smoothing was off
General and swapping between all three to see target response.
Normal

Had to Noise cancel at least twice due to the ground conditions and a partner working close.
One minute rock next 20 feet was river wash.

Due to the heat-41'C we packed up by 11am and headed home.

I did pull back the sensitivity a couple of notches. The Threshold stayed in single digit numbers.

good luck out there.

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Post by Warbos on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 8:21 am

Hi Oneday,

Many thanks for advice. Will try it out on my bush trip this week.

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Post by oneday on Thu 29 Oct 2015, 7:52 am

if u r worried about the ferrite breaking---wrap some bubble wrap around it and stick it all together with clear tape..

keep the bubble wrap nice and tight around the ferrite and this should minimise future breakages..

the ring is $18 to replace so take care of it.

I noticed once the machine warmed up and when I went to ground balance the 7K with my finger on the button and swinging over the ring --it was immediately giving of a response and after about 40seconds the 7K had got its shit together and was finding me gold with very little interference..

Because I run my machine HOT --I don't mind a bit of noise in the background. I like to hear that the machine is humming away looking for fat nuggets and hopefully not these sub gram anorexic bloody things.

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Post by oneday on Tue 17 Nov 2015, 6:46 pm

has anyone not upgraded their 7K?

have used the ferrite after the upgrade and it certainly makes a difference to my machine at least.

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Post by GimeSumAU on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:00 am

Hi Ray,
Do you ever swap between fixed and tracking? Or do you mainly run in tracking?
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Post by oneday on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:16 am

I leave mine in auto tracking, coz every 10feet the ground changes especially working around creeks and gullies then coming onto the flats again.

its easier for the machine to adjust than me to play around with..

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Post by GimeSumAU on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:25 am

No probs - Thanks Smile
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Post by Wedgetail on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 11:33 am

oneday wrote:I leave mine in auto tracking, coz every 10feet the ground changes especially working around creeks and gullies then coming onto the flats again.

its easier for the machine to adjust than me to play around with..

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That's OK now Ray, after the download has fixed the "Ground Balance wind up" issue. It was bloody obvious to me after a cuppla weeks using mine that the "wind up" in auto GB was the probable cause of so many EXPERIENCED people becoming disillusioned with the early 7000s. I was doing resets every 10 minutes when using Auto GB - as the ML manual and JP told me to. The penny dropped with me a few weeks after that after reading a hypothesis on the UMER forum. After that, Minelab finally twigged and issued the patch.

Me? I'm over it. My money's gone elsewhere. But my former confidence in Minelab is severely dented.
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Post by oneday on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:12 pm

YEAH WE ALL GET DUSTED EVERY NOW AND THEN--A QUICK SHAKE OFF AND AWAY WE GO AGAIN .

I've got a twit up here writing graffiti everywhere making me look like a movie star.

yah confidence may have been dented but u r still using minelab detectors rather than a Garret, that still say a lot.

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Post by Wedgetail on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 3:24 pm

Ray,

Don't start with the Garret thing again. The whole world should know by now I made a mistake, Jeessuz only knows I've admitted it often enough!

My point is that never again will I buy a new Minelab release immediately it arrives on the market. I did it with 2000, it failed, I did it with the 2100, it failed, I did it with the 2200, it failed, I did it with the 4500 (two of 'em), they failed, I did it with 7000, it failed. So, just like the Garret,,,,,,,,,,,I made a mistake again! Razz

Next time I'll wait two years like I did with the 5000 the 3500 and the 2300. They didn't fail. There's a lesson to be learned d'ya reckon?
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